--Minutes--

AP* Retreat Meeting Report
25 February 2001, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

Location:
PWTC, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

Participants: Prof. Toru Takahshi, Prof.Tan Tin Wee, Prof. Kilnam Chon, Byung Kim, Chen Wen Sung, Hirofumi Hotta, Hualin Qian, Oliver Nicole, Shigeki Goto, Jeongjun Seo, Albert Wang, Yu Yang, Shoba Ranganathan, Subramaniam D, YJ Park, Paul Wilson, Narayanan_A, Rikio Onai, Makiko Matsumaru, Lim Choon Sai, Kyoung.S.H, Hye-Young

  • Meeting started at 9:00 A.M (local time)
  • The meeting discussed following topics:
       
    The meeting chair Shigeki Goto expressed his thanks to all meeting participants. He asked the participants to review the agenda. After discussion participants were agreed on basic agenda follow by in minutes.


    1.Expanded Definition of AP* Memberships
       In AP* Retreat meeting there was a discussion on membership. After discussion members was agreed on this basic structure.

    2. AP* Vision
       
    The vision of AP* is to provide a strong united front for all Asia Pacific Internet organizations to deal with International issues of governance, administration, management, research, development, education, public awareness and other related aspects of the Internet.

    3. AP* Retreat Secretariat
        In AP*Retreat meeting participants raised the issue that AP* sec is not working as apstar sec for all AP* organizations. In response to that question Prof. Kilnam Chon said according to my knowledge Dr. Kanachana has only AP* Retreat sec and her responsibility is only to organize two meetings per year. Most participants disagreed with Prof. Kilnam 's opinion. Some participants suggested that if Dr. Kanchana is not running AP* sec then we should try to make a new secretariat for AP* organizations. However, After discussion everybody agreed that Dr. Kanchana should keep AP* secretariat and we should try to help her. Participants said that there is a lack of coordination amongst members’ organizations. They wanted that AP* secretariat should do networking and coordination amongst all AP* organizations. They wanted from AP* sec to make a master plan for all relevant meetings. AP* sec should collect information related to meetings, schedule, and newsletter from each organization and then distribute it to all partner organizations. Or AP* sec host some meetings for AP* organizations. The participants were agreed that the coordination is carried out by the AP* Retreat Secretariat. This is different from the AP Joint Secretariat. Participants were agreed on these points.

    AP* Retreat secretariat would
    a. Act as the international liaison with other AP* organizations
    b. Provide a framework for the AP* Organizations
    c. Provide an environment that it is a spawning ground for new AP* organization
    d. Foster creation of international bodies such as MINC
    e. Work with AP Joint Secretariat (JtSec) which hosts international secretariats such as DNSO Secretariat,ccTLD constituency secretariat
    f. Coordinate meetings and events of AP* Internet organizations, production of master calendar of events for harmonization and synchronization and avoidance of collisions.


    4. Reports from AP* Retreat Members
    All AP* members presented their reports.

    4.1 Report by APNIC
    Report delivered by Paul Wilson, Director General
    Rapid growth and soon, the largest Registry of Internet resources.

    4.2. Report by APNG
    Report given by Rikio Onai, APNG Secretariat
    APNG is historically the mother organization of AP* organizations.

    4.3. Report by APAN
    Report given by Professor Kilnam Chon, Director APAN
    Research and education high performance network
    1Gbps aggregate out of AP Region including Transpac project.
    Europe transatlantic approximately 2Gbps
    Key problem with intra-continental linkages 2 or 3 orders of magnitude lower approx T1 or E1 1 to 2 Mbps links
    Europe is going up from TEN155kbps to 622kbps.
    Intra-continental Links
    APII Korean APEC initiative JP, KR, SG
    AI3 Japanese satellite initiative
    e-ASEAN initiative.
    JP-SG may be disconnected soon
    KR-JP 8Mbps
    KR-EU 45Mbps
    Agriculture Earth Monitoring WG leading globally
    Bioinformatics
    Education
    Grid

    4.4 Report by APBioNet
    Report was delivered by Vice President, Professor Shoba Ranganathan.

    4.5. Report by APDN
    Report verbally given by Kilnam Chon.
    Organization is somewhat dormant, emerging from APTLD.
    APTLD covering ccTLD
    APTLD not covering DNSO
    Therefore APDN was initiated to cover DNSO just like APNIC is covering APDN
    APx to cover PSO
    Commercial Group and Non-Commercial constituency (NCC) Group of APDN
    YJ Park delivered the report on the NCC of DNSO

    4.6. Report by APIA
    Report was given by Hiro Hotta, new Chairman of APIA.
    Reorganization of Roles of Chairman, Board and Secretary General
    Secretariat moved to RIIS, Japan.
    Decline in membership because of non-payment.
    Membership restructuring

    4.7. Report by APRICOT
    Report was given by B K Kim, Chair of Fellowship Committee of APRICOT 2001.
    Secretariat moved to KRNIC on interim basis

    4.8. Report by APTLD
    Report was delivered by Chen Wen-Sung, APTLD Secretariat from TWNIC

    4.9. Report by AI3
    Report was given by Olivier Nicole and Shigeki Goto for Jun Murai.

    5.Outreach and awareness
        ByuingKuy Kim provided information on AP* out-reach and awareness activities. He informed the participants that in last AP* Retreat meeting (Bangkok)AP* Outreach Program was Proposed and in Nov. 2000, APTLD-LA they discussed the status of AP* Outreach Program. So far, since Oct. 2000, we had two out-reach programs(in NZ, India). In response to his report Prof. Kilnam asked him to explain whether this is under AP*or is this a different organization. He said that after this presentation I had feeling that you are running a separate AP*organization if its like this we can make a new organization as AP* Outreach and Awareness organization. Prof. Kilnam asked the participants for their opinion on this issue. In response to Kilnam question Paul Wilson said that each organization has its own Outreach Program. APNIC has some money to spend on outreach and awareness activities and they try to arrange one workshop once a month, so they discussed with ByungKyu Kim and with his help we arranged these workshops. Prof. Kilnam said that AP* Sec could be helpful to coordinate outreach and awareness activities. Participants agreed that AP* Outreach Program will work jointly with local organizers such as APTLD, APNIC, MINC, APRICOT, ccTLD, etc.

    6.Network Technology / Engineering Workshop (of ISOC)
       
    Olivier Nicole presented the AIT proposal. There was questions regarding time management and curriculum. Under this proposal Prof. Kilnam chon commented that it will be good to organize this workshop in April. Or it could be in August, just before the APAN Meeting in Penang. He also suggested that we should follow ISOC curriculum and asked them for Instructors. Prof. Kilnam chon also asked that how the workshop would differentiate for example like CISCO. In response to these questions Mr. Olivier explained that they intend to invite people like CISCO as instructors, and they would offer broader content. It will not be limited to one vendor only, so attendees can adapt to any brand of equipment. Paul Wilson commented that ISOC used to collocate with a big conference, so attendees can develop many contacts in the conference. As there is a large need in the region, a two level training could be a good idea. Where the Internet Training center train the trainers, this could allow to draw support from development organizations like the Bank of Development. He also said that we can organize first workshop in AIT but after that we should think to collate with some other conference. It might be possible that we can arrange with APRICOT each year. On these suggestions Mr. Olivier replied that AIT would not have the technical staff to move around the equipment each year and install a new laboratory in the conference premises. After discussion it was agreed that the staff could be found.

    7.New gTLDs including .asia
        On gTLDs issue Prof. Kilnam said that .asia could be a good gtld like.eu . He also mentioned that .council is pro-active, or Taiwan, China and Hong Kong can think it but Korea and Japan are not interested in this company. They could use it in North Asia we can't control all these companies.

    8.ICANN & ccTLd Contract Workshop
        In meeting participants also discussed on ICANN & ccTLD contract workshop. Chen Wen Sung provided the information on this workshop. APTLD is going to host this meeting on 11th March, 14:00 – 19:00 PM. The basic issues are
        a. to discuss impact of ICANN contract proposal on ccTLD,
        b. .cp, .jp , .au case studies.(Background and introduction)
        c. ICANN Contract Proposal Acceptable?
        d. Legacy Model, Trilateral Model or other Models?
        e. Other Issues related to ICANN contract?

       Chen Wen - Sung also informed the participants that APTLD is going to sponsor new APTLD member candidates to attend the workshop and APTLD members meeting. These candidates are .in (India) .ph (Philippines) .vi (Vietnam) .id (Indonesia) .pk (Pakistan) ,Cambodia and Laos. They are also going to invite ICANN and CENTER staff attended the workshop at discussion time frame at least. They will submit APTLD draft statement of the ICANN contract to ICANN in open public forum on 12th March.

    9.Next AP* Retreat meeting

       Participants also discussed the next AP* Retreat and (tentatively) decided to have the next AP* Retreat from September 14-15 in Bangkok/AIT. Or it could be arrange with APAN meeting in August 25. In AP* meeting so many issues were not discussed due to lack of time and the absence of related person. Participants agreed that for next AP* Retreat meeting AP* sec should bring and present the Secretariat and last meeting reports so we can get formation about AP* Secretariat activities. The participants raised the issues that one day meeting is not sufficient. we should have two day meeting so we can discuses all issues. Prof. Kilnam suggested that in next meeting we should discuss AP* joint Secretariat


  • The meeting adjourned at 5:00 PM Local Time